Laverne Cox is Done Debating Whether Trans is Real

....I'm not sure your material existence is what's being debated.

Typical strawman argument.

Trans rights activism 101: obfuscate the issue and DARVO away any criticism.

Great. Could she spend her excess time in a remedial acting class?

Now if he would only shut up about everything else, too, it would be perfect.

I love that Laverne and other trannies manage to rile up DL's largest demogreaphic: angry, old, white, racist baby boomer queens.

Fuck off, R6! You may think that it's worth defending trannies but regardless how much you suck their 'girldicks,' they will cancel your fugly ass at the first opportunity. Those homophobic fuckers have power fantasies about showing gay cisscum their place and forcing lezzies to choke on their dicks.

She looks good on that beer commercial.

Does he still support the child murdering tranny?

Oh, the irony of someone like R7 accusing trannies of being "unhinged."

All of you are crazy; trannies included

She is beautiful. And a class act.

He looks like a mental man who would beat up anybody who disagreed with him.

Aging is making LC look rather hard, especially facial features. That shirt does nothing to hide linebacker shoulders either.

She has the worst mouth. It’s literally half her head. Can’t she get her mouth unwidened through surgery?

The shorter hair looks good. She looked awful with that awful long weave.

She looks like a man in a weave.

Short or long it's still a weave and the color is not flattering.

Face and jaw line are settling into what a man of that age would look like; then there are those big teeth which also aren't at all feminine.

This guy really started it all. It seems like since he became popular on that prison show that everyone started feeling the need to bow down to trannies. Not me. Trans women are MEN.

Laverne tried to shave nearly 10 years off oaf her age. She’s close to 50.

Laverne Cox is many things, but a woman ain't any of them.

Does this creature think that it looks like a female?

Only seen Laverne in one movie and her voice was so grating.

I think he is just done, period.

R3 - I actually think she's grown as an actress. I thought she was a weak link in an otherwise fantastic ensemble cast on Orange Is The New Black's early seasons, but I feel like she's become a stronger actress over the years.

It's too bad he looks so much like a dude

I loved when Cox was a guest judge on Project Runway. When every other performer is referred to as an actor, Cox was introduced as a "trailblazing actress." I haven't heard anyone refer to themselves and an actress for years and its use is now mostly on award shows. It was illustrative.

R25 You tasteless junkie.

While I agree with r6 I'm never going to forget Laverne insisting that a penis can be female. "What about the female penis?" she asked.

Really bitch?

I support rights for trans but there is way too much crazy in their demands. Women have vagina's, periods, get pregnant etc. Stop trying to erase reality because you don't like it the way it is.

I'll never forget how ridiculous she looked on The View, towering over the women to the left and right of her at the hot topics table.

I make I go out of my way to tell everyone who wears colored contacts or who dyes their hair that we all know and they aren’t changing their genetics trying to pass themselves off as blue eyed or blond haired!

R25 she may have toned it down a bit but everything I’ve seen Laverne in she’s playing Laverne Cox. The rocky horror remake she did for tv was terrible and she was the worst part of it.

She's not my favorite Trans woman, for most of the reasons mentioned. Laverne and Candis Cayne are still ancient Drag Queens who got the Season One filter.

There are some very cool trans people. Laverne is a bad example. She could be the same spokesperson as a GAY man, but you'd never pay her any mind. So there's that. Same with RuPaul. OUT of Drag, he's a huge fucking DRAG.

Has anyone asked Laverne Cox if she's had her penis cut off and if not, why is she clinging to her male privilege?

Trans people need to get over the fact that if we're supposed to pretend along with them, we at ;east deserve the facts.

Katie couric asked her and she wouldn’t answer the question.

Yes, Katie Couric asked her R34. When she had that daytime deal. Laverne gave her a lecture instead of an answer.

R20, unfortunately she has a twin!

[quote]Katie couric asked her and she wouldn’t answer the question.

That means she's kept her dick...in all its femininity!

Of course they always keep their dick that’s the main reason the tranny chasers want them!

Gender dysphoria is like a spell hardwired on the brain at a young age. But it can be broken.

She can’t even act in this video.

I don't think there are many front hole chasers....

As I said years ago, my only problem with transgender women is that they want to be female but still maintain their male privilege.

Back in the early days of trans they were told basically the operation would "cure" their illness and make them happy. This was back when Dr. Harry Benjamin and his book "The TRANSSEXUAL PHENOMENON" was like some sort of bible for trans care.

Basically trans were to take hormones, get the snip, maybe breast implants and other surgeries. Then change their names (and if posible gender on official documents) and live their lives as women. If a man asked why they couldn't have children their response was to allude to some vague injury or whatever that left them barren....

Problem was it was all BS and rarely if ever worked. People knew (or soon guessed) what post trans really were, and they faced same discrimination, abuse and so forth as they did before the operation. Worse they were now saddled with what amounts to a surgical would that requires regular (and often painful) dilation to keep from closing/losing depth. Then nor now those newly created vaginas rarely fooled a man who knew his way around a real woman.

It soon became apparent to both Harry Benjamin institute and others that large numbers of post-op trans were no happier than pre-op. Suicide rates wren't much lower, and in some instances increased. Post op trans weren't wanted by straight men (by and large), nor guys who were into trannies who by and large wanted a chick with a dick. So they were stuck in no man's land, literally. This was because unusually high numbers of post op trans entered into lesbian relationships. So for all the expense, pain, suffering, etc.. post op trans were relationships with the same sex they could have had without all the extra nonsense.

By the 1980's into the 1990's there came rise (via people like Kat Bornstein) of non-op trans. These trannies don't buy the whole "women trapped in a mans' body" theory that medicine pushed for decades, and don't want to have gender reassignment surgery for a host of reasons. They may get breast enhancement, take hormones, etc.. but that is where things stop.

Most if not all the famous trans such as Candis Cayne, Laverne Cox, even Bruce/Kaitlin Jenner, none of them IIRC have had the chop. Kaitlin Jenner can certainly afford it; while since Obama's time Medicaid, Medicare and military healthcare provide coverage.

Getting "the chop", cutting one's dick and balls off, does not make one female. Neither do hormones, breast implants,facial reconstruction, a dress, high heels, painted fingernails, make-up or a soft, fluffy girly-girl voice.

The sole criterion that makes one female is XX chromosomes.

The rest is demeaning, insulting parody.

Listen bub, am just putting theory out there, do with the information what you will.....

For record trans know fully well gays don't like them any more than most straights. Given events of past few weeks (thousands turning out for a pro-trans march in Brooklyn, NY), they may be winning converts from the latter, well at least in 18-49 demographics.

Trans also know if it were up to (mostly) white power gays LGBT rights would have stopped at "L and G"; hence their increasing activism and demanding seat at table. NYT who once printed gallons of ink for gay equality causes now doesn't miss a day covering trans or their issues.

R47 Are you lost? That shit will not fly here, BWHAHAHAAHAHAH fucking idiot.

Aren't his 15 minutes up yet ?

[quote]Given events of past few weeks (thousands turning out for a pro-trans march in Brooklyn, NY), they may be winning converts from the latter, well at least in 18-49 demographics.

Don't confuse the younger generation's desire to polish their own wokeness by drowning themselves in the trans agenda with anything more. It's nothing more than an advanced case of performative virtue signaling, it doesn't mean younger people will want to have sex with a trans person! For Christ's sake, we can hardly get them to fucking vote!

Isn't this just called "magical thinking"?

You're not 'trans' anymore, you stupid freak. You wanted to be a woman- be a woman. Stop talking about transitioning and surgeries.

Dear trans girls. You are not female. And it’s okay. How you feel is valid. But what you are is your truth. No surgery or surgeries will change your true God given gender. So instead of being female, change what it is to be a male. There’s magic there.

[quote] The rest is demeaning, insulting parody.

Rad fems say the same about drag.

She’s beautiful. I don’t agree with much of the extreme cancel and supposed hate for real T. There is a subset who want to be they and just use as an excuse for attention and to get less work or think they can use it to hook up with girls.. like Fred in accounting who looks like a dude who wears eyeliner, msn bun or a skirt from time to time with a full beard and stash. How dare you misgender they though! Or the frau with short hair and a penchant for lumberjack shirts and workbook. They a stay at home parent to they kids and married to a man who works in an office. How dare you call them a wife or her! They an ACE who likes to have sex Straight to HR with the deadnaming and MISGENDERING

I'll never understand why the trans have to sit at the gay and lesbian table? They're not gay!

So much hate in this thread. It makes me sad. You sound like the homophobes that hate on us like this everyday.

R59, I think most of the hate is coming from straight women.

R59 R60 Are you fucks new here? DL has always had the trannys number.

But do stay and whine.

The obsession with trans women is a recent development that, and from the tone (self-martyred hysteria), I assume most are women.

Some even admit when asked. And I do ask at anything too suspicious, like the common outright homophobia.

People disagreeing with you, or questioning your motives is actually not "hate", but it's so much easier to avoid rational discussions by accusing the other side of being full of "hate" . It's the oldest hustle in the world to mask a weak argument.

True, R64. We see that from rad fems. When JK Rowling is speaking it’s free speech, but people disagreeing with her is apparently ‘literal violence against women’.

"You sound like the homophobes that hate on us like this everyday."

I don't think you get it. The trans cultists ARE the homophobes and they hate us virulently. Try saying to a trans that you're attracted to people of your own sex and see how apoplectic they get.

We could just post links to the endless homophobia from rad fems. They’re much more homophobic than the average trans person.

Studies have indicated that surgery does not cure dysphoria.

I imagine a lot of trans women got the surgery thinking they would finally be accepted, then are shocked to discover that TERFs still won't consider them women.

R69 is the woman hating trans troll. Expect to see a flood of posts about rad fems or terfs being the reason men won’t fuck them or the reason that trans women of color get murdered.

Have you dilated yet?

Why, yes, radical feminism is the primary reason why trans women are murdered for being trans.

Though more general societal homophobia plays almost as large a part.

Eradicate homophobia and fewer trans women will be murdered. You want, don't you?

I’m done debating whether LITERAL VIOLENCE on this thread is real!

[quote] I’m done debating whether LITERAL VIOLENCE on this thread is real!

Ooh. Totally is. Something tweeted something mean in JK's replies.

Another opportunity for a gay chat board to demonstrate that prejudice and hate for something not the same is just as prevalent among gays. Always a favorite target are trans folks. So sad.

I didn't realize I was debating her...

Very well.

[quote] Another opportunity for a gay chat board to demonstrate that prejudice and hate for something not the same is just as prevalent among gays. Always a favorite target are trans folks. So sad.

Well, one comfort is that a good proportion of these posters are women.

The ones that are gay men tend to be pussy-whipped and British.

'tis better to be a pretty girl than a sissy boy.

Trans folk are not targets! Please. Women accept their trans sisters, but the they don’t want to be called women but want to be in women spaces! Funny they also like women. Wearing eyeliner and a bra doesn’t mean it’s totally cool for you to come into women spaces anymore than a butch woman should be able to waltz into a mens locker room!

Black trans women are more than a DL joke. They are targets. Nobody should celebrate violence.

[quote]True, [R64]. We see that from rad fems. When JK Rowling is speaking it’s free speech, but people disagreeing with her is apparently ‘literal violence against women’.

Except for having it completely backwards, with all of the rage and threats of violence coming from the Transtapo and misogynistic gender deniers, I agree.

[quote]Except for having it completely backwards, with all of the rage and threats of violence coming from the Transtapo and misogynistic gender deniers, I agree.

Nope. They're doing free speech.

It rad fems who whine about everything being violence -- that's part of their ideology.

R79 Get them out of prostitution and drug dealing. Stop tranny icons from recommending prostitution as a cool and neat life choice.

[quote]Why, yes, radical feminism is the primary reason why trans women are murdered for being trans.

Where are all these radical feminists hiding when all the trans women of color are murdered (usually by black men) during sketchy sex for money hook ups? Are they hiding under the bed, or in the back seat?

They're usually advancing the idea that 'gay panic' is an acceptable reason to kill someone.

Of course, they think all sex workers and gay men are usually asking for it anyway too.

So the "rad fems" are off the hook then? Phew! That canard was pretty rancid and stupid anyway.

Well, there's still time for them to hop on one.

A literal one.

In the cunt.

R61- I’m totally gay and not new here and I think people in this thread are very hateful calling Cox a man.

The black man demanding he be recognized by society as a woman is fascinating. As a thought experiment, let's just take away sexuality and psychology.

It's incredibly hard to be a black man in our society. Actually it's deathly unsafe. It's dangerous to be a woman, but there are advantages if you are attractive; case in point, Laverne Cox is a celebrated actress. No transwoman puts effort into looking like Jennifer Garner going to church, they tend to go completely glam, so they understand the power of glamorous femininity.

I think it's about power and exchanging a socially undesirable identity for an easily attainable powerful identity. And it does threaten biological women because it exposes the artifice of glamorized femininity, and therefore exposes that source of power.

[quote] No transwoman puts effort into looking like Jennifer Garner going to church, they tend to go completely glam

Natalie Wynne has talked about this.

Basically, it you dress like Ellen DeGeneres, how will anyone know you're a woman?

If you're feeling unconfident in your ability to pass, you worry about wearing a plain white shirt and blue jeans. For the world to treat you as a woman, they have to know you are one. So you're safer wearing more obviously female things.

[quote]I think it's about power and exchanging a socially undesirable identity for an easily attainable powerful identity.

It's possible some black gay men feel safer as black women.

R90, and that's the point then right, to have the world treat you like a woman, an attractive woman, because that's the best treatment?

R88's post is ridiculous. Written by an old white fag. A black woman is no more safe than a black man in this life. And certainly no more protected or respected. What a bunch of dumb words strung together.

It's possible that (unconsciously) someone could feel that way. But Laverne Cox is not a petite flower. She has the muscle power of a tall fit black man and whatever power comes from becoming more who she wanted to be. She was BIG in the Drag World as a man and she always wanted to be bigger. Her female penis is HUGE. She's protected because she's famous and like RuPaul - she never actually puts herself out on the line. She accepts proper high class invitations to speak in front of her adoring peers and attends all the best industry events. She will show up for some awards. But on the real - she just tweets and insta stories about dead trans hookers. Fake is fake. Black, white, gay or trans. If you get to become someone, be something. Most people don't. So she's not unusual in that sense. She's an advocate. But she's not a representative.

r93 'fag'...are you lost,cunt?

Applause for the truth. Good for you R93. The vile language used here daily against women, trans people and POC is acceptable but FAG is offensive? Get off my dick you bitch at R94. You're not welcome here. aiiite?

F&F R94. Some ancient white gay man drunk all day on Sunday? Racist too. F&F R94!

R96 is twiggered. Get it a safe place to suck on mummy's pus filled titty.

This site is for gay men. List? Again?

Could it be that some boys just simply fail to connect with their male gender identities due to trauma or a stubborn mind?

I am a gay man. A gay black man. You're an ancient white racist fag R98. About to be banned. Got it grampa?

Bwahaha Muriel gives zero shit. And have you fucked a trans man yet?

[qote]And it does threaten biological women because it exposes the artifice of glamorized femininity, and therefore exposes that source of power

No. The thing is that biological women don't *need* any of those trappings to appear feminine and can choose not to use them, whereas it's all the transgenders (and drag queens) have when expressing their perceived femininity. Someone like Jean Seberg, in a pixie cut, white T-shirt, jeans, and sneakers and with minimal make-up still looked more feminine than any drag queen who spends 4+ hours on her hair and makeup.

[quote]...but Laverne Cox is not a petite flower. She has the muscle power of a tall fit black man...

AND the big black cock to go with it...like ANY OTHER woman!

You sound deranged. Are you the poster who always starts your posts calling people an "old white FAG!"? I'm assuming you are. We're not impressed, doll.

Put the trans loon on block. They are mentally disturbed, misogynistic, and flood ANY thread mentioning trans with divisive comments trying to derail the conversation. Engaging with them just prolongs it; you will not convince them of anything, they are insane and pushing a specific agenda to shut down the thread.

The only thing killing transwomen is men (cismen) and a culture of profound and widespread male rage against women.

Women (and transwomen) have no idea how much heterosexual cismen loathe and despise women. The extreme rage that many men have at women simply for existing. Look at the incel movement and the ways the incel movement has tried to co-opt trans rights as a way to attack women.

Nothing to do with TERFs, radfems, or any other women. At all. Ciswomen do not have that power.

Men kill transwomen. Not women.

For thousands of years the patriarchy has tried to blame male violence on women. That’s exactly what’s happening here. And it’s patriarchy that lets them get away with it. The trans rights activism movement is deeply phallocentric. Cis-lesbians who politely say they don’t want a cock shoved inside them get hundreds of death and rape threats and are told they are literally killing transwomen by refusing access to their vagina. Cismen say horrendously abusive things and actually attack and sometimes even kill transwomen and somehow that’s fine and it’s all evil ciswomen’ as fault. There are similar double standards with transmen (the TRA don’t give a shit about transmen). Basically if you have a penis you’re entitled to anything you desire and can do no wrong, if you have a vagina you’re responsible for all evil in the world and deserve everything you get.

"Cis" is a slur.

Stop misgendering me! I am not a "cis-male", I'm male.

R106 Prostitution,boyfriend and drug deals gone wrong. That is how transies die.

Merci Mack was shot to death outside at 5AM.

Probably starting its milk round.

Front line workers in this pandemic are heroes.

In America, black men are murdered at the same percentage as trans-identified black men.

r87, Cox is a man. He has a bodied organized around the production of small gametes (sperm). Putting on a fucking dress and a wig doesn't change his biology. If you don't comprehend that: he has an IDENTICAL TWIN BROTHER. He was born male and will always be male. It is impossible for humans to change sex.

[quote] The thing is that biological women don't *need* any of those trappings to appear feminine and can choose not to use them, whereas it's all the transgenders (and drag queens) have when expressing their perceived femininity.

Yes, they do. And they hate that trans women suddenly know the same tricks.

And you don’t look like Jean Seberg.

Men kill gay men.

Radical feminists work to make that socially acceptable.

The whole world laughs at, and pities, you and your kind, R112. There's no such thing as "trans" women, just grotesque caricatures. And 99% of real women don't need make-up or even to wear a dress or skirt not to be mistaken for men.

Transgender women are transgender women, not natural born women. Is it no wonder that popular well known transwomen are not known to date popular A or B list straight men? Why? Because those men want women, there's a difference.

It's also why drag queens could never "do," say, Audrey Hepburn or Julie Christie or Lee Remick. They're only capable of crude parodies of women.

Homophobia at R116!

Drag is ‘womanface’, right? And bigoted and hateful?

R116 Isn't homophobia, is the t.

The Reddit trans sites are gone, but there's always Peak Trans:

On the contrary, I find drag queens make much better women than the supposed real thing.

r115, trans-identified men are men. They are not and will never be women, no matter what adjective they toss in front of the word 'woman'. The majority of them are autogynephiles and they want laws changed so they can perve on women with impunity. 15% of incarcerated men are in prison for sex offences. 40% of incarcerated trans-identified men are locked up for sex offences. The trans-identified men who start dressing in women's clothing in mid-life are 100% autogynephilic sex pests.

Audrey Hepburn has huge feet. As big as Caitlyn Jenner’s.

Does this Laverne person have a functioning penis as well as fake blond hair?

The interview with her twin ( who described himself as queer) where Laverne was talking about her "feminine penis", she was also talking about how homophobic the church environment she grew up in is, how, if I remember correctly, the nasty things her grandmother said about gays.

It's not hard to put 2 and 2 together and work out why Laverne decided to become a transwomen. Unless you really believe that she has a genuine dysphoria. In which case, why has she kept her penis?

Yes, r123. She does, because if she didn't all her "boyfriends" would vanish.

R125 Links to these 'boyfriends' please.

R126 It’s just a parade of average white guy tranny dick chasers.Not really worth posting.

Do you think they're really chasing 'tranny dick' ?

I'm assuming these transvestites are expert cock-suckers and expert at having cocks up their anus.

R127 Found one. very plain.

Muriel is not letting me post the photo. Drunk again...

Drag performer & writer Amrou Al-Kadhi questions why gender should be binary when the physics which underpins the universe can change.

Except he’s just plain wrong with no clue what he’s talking about. And yet a news channel give him this worldwide platform to spout this crap.

And hilariously the world that does understand quantum physics tears this clown a new asshole.

As an addendum to above, here's an offshoot thread that explains in simple – well almost simple – language how the trans gobbledygook on “science” is absolute nonsense.

Enjoy!

R124, He thinks of it as an engorged clit.

Rad fems will soon be posting this article.

R133 is the tranny troll.

[quote] R133 is the tranny troll.

Looks more like the ginger troll to me

U mean like Richard Speck?

Ed Gein wanted to be a woman.

[quote]The whole world laughs at, and pities, you and your kind,

The "we don't hate trans, we just want to protect women" crowd is so convincing.

All anti trans threads become anti drag threads.

Oh, and if anyone was questioning whether the anti-transers are rightwingers, the "the world laughs at your kind" guy is on the Glenn Greenwald thread defending Tucker Carlson.

Except there's not a single post on that thread defending Carlson. The posts that mention him clearly state what he is: a white supremacist.

Ignore reveals the anti-trans posters’ views on other threads.

They’re right-wing.

I don’t have to.

Anyone can check posters on ignore.

The anti-trans posters are conservatives.

The truth about AutoGynephiles from an AutoGynephile:

R144 So if "anti-trans posters are conservatives", does that make pro-trans posters radicals?

It makes them lying douches who hate women and children.

People who are critical of trans ideology span the entire political spectrum.

[quote]does that make pro-trans posters radicals?

I'd like to hope so.

[quote]It makes them lying douches who hate women and children.

But not gay males necessarily. The only group who matter.

[quote]People who are critical of trans ideology span the entire political spectrum.

No, they are either people whose entire politics is solely rad fem or they're conservative.

Imagine the hours of photoshopping required for this masterpiece of fakery

R149 I drink your silent, stupid tears.

R150, that piece of fakery doesn't even look good. But I note how Laverne can have "sexy" photos taken of herself and be "sexualised", but we're not allowed to state the glaring fact that she has a penis?

Ha. On both the tranny threads now they are doing the 'if you won't support trannys you are a right winger'....crap effort kids.

[quote]But I note how Laverne can have "sexy" photos taken of herself and be "sexualised", but we're not allowed to state the glaring fact that she has a penis?

Plenty of ciswomen do similar photoshoots and we're not allowed to state that they're fat and saggy IRL.

and we is done wif her......SHE IS ANNOYING !!!!!

I don't care how much she spouts bout, I cant stand to look at or hear her....she is like a neighbor u want to just go away

All women -- be they real or cis -- use Photoshop.

Has anyone ever tried to claim trans isn't real, tried to "erase their existence" or "deny their validity"?

Picking holes in trans ideology does none of the above. Where do they get this stuff?

Rad fems have called for violence against trans women, so there's that.

Threads like this help fill up ignore lists which aren't maxed out.

Oh Snitchypoos get laid loser.

This person is their own special creation.

They named themselves 'Laverne' after Laverne Andrews (pictured below).

And they named themselves 'Cocks' after their own special 'raison d'être'.

I get the worst vibes from her, cant decide why.....something in the nasty eyes.

Probably a lifetime of a lot of hurt.

Cinesnatch, do you believe transwomen are women?

Exactly, r160. Trans is real - no one is denying trans people exist. They are trans, no one disputes that they are trans. I am happy to describe Laverne as trans and accept her as trans.

Biological women are also real, and biological men are also real. In fact, they are more real than transwomen and transmen because they don't have to have surgery or inject themselves to be women or men. Yet the trans deny that biological sex is real.

Exactly, r160. Trans is real - no one is denying trans people exist. They are trans, no one disputes that they are trans. I am happy to describe Laverne as trans and accept her as trans.

Biological women are also real, and biological men are also real. In fact, they are more real than transwomen and transmen because they don't have to have surgery or inject themselves to be women or men. Yet the trans deny that biological sex is real.

Is that you Cinesnatch, at r169?

Is that you Cinesnatch, at r169?

When she opens her huge mouth I want to put a sour cream pie onto her big assed face.....she reeks of insincerity.

[quote]All women -- be they real or cis -- use Photoshop.

Huh? This makes no sense!

Firstly, the fucked up term "ciswoman" means nothing and "real women" are never "trans" women! You've gone around the bend, Hon!

Funny in the trans-led "gender identity" movement, all of their heroes are MtF people who claim to "pass", and comport themselves like rigid stereotypes of women, mainly in a stripper or drag queen style. Nothing but enforcers of strict gender stereotypes, that very notion that destroyed the childhoods of femme gay boys and butch lesbian girls as children! Why does any of that make sense? It doesn't!

Don't argue with the troll R175. He's the same freak/loser who claims women are threatened by transgenders (*snort*) and makes blanket and just plain weird statements like "all women use Photoshop" or "gay males are the only group who matter". He/it is sad and pathetic and best to be ignored.

Laverne was not good on orange is the new b. That’s my biggest issue with her. The talent needs to back up the over promotion of someone.

her mouf so big they call her trout mouf behind her big fat back....

Wiki tells me this "Laverne" transvestite is worth $2,000.000.

But what about all the other transvestites who don't "Laverne's" money and photoshopping—

[quote]I find drag queens make much better women than the supposed real thing.

Of course you think that because drag queens don't have to endure what real women have to endure from day to day. Drag queens pretend to be women and then when the show is over they go back to being men. Women don't have that option.

Please, quit call Laverne Cox a "her" or a "she." It's a "he" and a "him" - just in drag.

Why would women want that option, R181?

she sho dint make that money actin.....

r182 Should we care about what Laverne Cox says? Isn't she exclusively into women? So technically not same sex

R183 - What I meant is that women can't stop being women. Drag queens can choose when and where they want to be feminine, and for how long.

that smirk on her face, hattie mcdaniel would wipe it off in no time.

No Laverne dates men r185.

she fuk em wif her weenie

Of course Cox dates men. a) What kind of woman would date her? And b) can you imagine her with a girlfriend?

Laverne is a self-loathing, homophobic gay man and a terrible actor, both in his LARPing as a woman and on-screen.

Laverne is a gay man, he doesn't date women

[quote] Of course you think that because drag queens don't have to endure what real women have to endure from day to day

What does ‘enduring’ have to do with anything?

By the way, drag queens endure homophobia from society. Ciswomen endure nothing.

[quote] Drag queens pretend to be women and then when the show is over they go back to being men. Women don't have that option.

I guess they could always become ‘transmen’ if they wanted.

[Quote] Ciswomen endure nothing.

Said the delusional prick.

R31, I always wonder about that. So if someone gets a ton of plastic surgery and then has kids with someone, is the partner surprised that the kids don't have the new features? For example, if you have a big nose, the kids might have that. Does that bother the partner?

I skipped over tons of post to post this. I hope I didn't miss anything great.

R195 is a triggered straight British woman.

If w*men were so oppressed why would anyone transition to be one?

Go awy u fugly skunt....we no like look at ur fukin face !!!!!

If ciswomen had to endure a fraction of what gay men -- especially those who perform in drag do -- they'd kill themselves.

There is no force stronger or braver than gay men. We're titanium. Ciswomen are worn pleather.

Remember that movie Lars and the Real Girl, in which Ryan Gosling played a mentally ill guy who loved a plastic doll? And his family decided to play along and be accepting? We have become that family playing along with the T community and their delusions that genetic gender can truly be changed.

We need to call people out on all their anti-biology bullshit. Like ciswomen trying to get pregnant through artificial means in their forties when those children are significantly more likely to have defects. We can’t continue to embrace something we know is so damaging.

I do like the trans woman that sometimes guest hosts on THE YOUNG TURKS, Ashley Marie Preston, is that her name? She defines herself as more than a Trans.

I think all trans women do, R203. Except Debbie Hayton and Blair White, who have both made careers out of being token right wing but trans a la Diamond and Silk.

[quote] Of course you think that because drag queens don't have to endure what real women have to endure from day to day. Drag queens pretend to be women and then when the show is over they go back to being men. Women don't have that option.

No drag queen could replicate the seriousness with which some heterosexual feminist infiltrators here take themselves. Only wombyn can do that.

The loudest ones don’t r204 or in the case of stefonknee they identify as a 7 year old girl.

[quote] Like women trying to get pregnant through artificial means in their forties when those children are significantly more likely to have defects.

You might be surprised how many of these older women do not use their own eggs with this process. Even Married women. I haven't read about whether the married women tell their husbands they aren't using their own eggs. So that takes care of the higher risk of birth defects.

R207: You are right about not using their own eggs but it's a process. The husband KNOWS. First they try to get pregnant, then they go to fertility doctor, then dr. tells couple that woman's eggs are too old. Couple has discussion. Should we adopt? Should we get donor egg and sperm? Husband wants to use own sperm. He promises wife the world. She says okay and that's what they do.

Women are just starting to be told that over age late 30's is too old. We were not told that in the 80's and 90's. We were told we had plenty of time.

R208 up until the last 10-15 years most women who got pregnant 35 and over had their pregnancy classified as a geriatric pregnancy. So yes they knew and it was considered uncommon.

R209 I'm probably not communicating what I mean. I mean that when women were around 30 everyone would say "oh you have plenty of time," but that wasn't really true. No one used to say that female fertility doesn't last forever. If you got pregnant, then yes, the docs would tell you and make you have all the high risk testing. People I know who thought it would be easy ended up really sad.

What the hell are any of you talking about? Women do have time over the age of 30. However, pregnancies get complex as women age. It depends on the health of the woman. The problem with women today is that they're not as healthy as women years ago. Also, women are now getting married much older than in years past, so many women are now having children in later years. To say that women are being told its too late at 30 years old is complete bullshit. Everyone I know has their children after the age of 30.

go away ya trout mouth fug....

Exactly!

Laverne Cox is over 30 and has plenty of time to have a baby because

TRANS WOMEN ARE WOMEN!

She can debate and flap her lips all she want, but wont change the fact she plain ugly.....

[quote] To say that women are being told its too late at 30 years old is complete bullshit. Everyone I know has their children after the age of 30.

That makes it all seem so simple. Most women do not just stumble into pregnancy. At least not most responsible women. Most women would ideally prefer to find someone that may make a decent if not good father to the child. That can take time. Years. If they aren't in a relationship at 30 with a reliable future partner - maybe because they have put off serious relationships to further their careers - then they DO need to start thinking about whether they want a child or not by the time they reach 30. It's definitely not bullshit for women to be very cognizant that planning for pregnancy, especially financially and with a responsible partner, is process that can take many years. For a woman of 30 to go through that can take her near the 35 year mark when she is pregnant or delivering and that's just for the first child which puts her further in age if she healthily spaces any future children she may want.

The fact that many women past the age of 30 have children is a superficial unhelpful statement.

R215 - Your entire post comes right out of some right wing marriage trope. This isn't 1962 anymore.

[quote]Most women do not just stumble into pregnancy. At least not most responsible women.

Only male jerks make asshat statements like this one. Half of pregnancies are unplanned. Women take on the responsibility of raising children, planned or unplanned, because most women aren't asshats.

[quote]If they aren't in a relationship at 30 with a reliable future partner - maybe because they have put off serious relationships to further their careers - then they DO need to start thinking about whether they want a child or not by the time they reach 30.

Ability or desire to have children isn't dependent on the age of 30. Why are you so stuck on the age of 30. These days most people at 30 aren't even thinking about children. Having children is about timing. If a woman and her partner are ready to have children, then that's when they have kids. Period. Women aren't going around contemplating their want for children the day they hit 30. So if a woman decides that she wants a child at 32, is she doomed?

[quote]For a woman of 30 to go through that can take her near the 35 year mark when she is pregnant or delivering and that's just for the first child which puts her further in age if she healthily spaces any future children she may want.

Most people these days only have one child. Two at the most. Rarely do families have 3 or more now. And that's not due simply to age. That's really due to the fact that parents just don't have time for more than 2 kids with 2 parents working. The obligations put on parents and kids by school & careers can be difficult to manage.

[quote]The fact that many women past the age of 30 have children is a superficial unhelpful statement.

No. Its a true statement. Just ask any woman with children.

Autism is booming because of older mothers.

It’s unnatural and unprecedented in human history.

Autism is not "booming". There are more diagnosis because of an increase in testing and awareness for the spectrum.

Years ago, if you had autism you were just considered awkward, dumb or "retarded" and thrown into special education classes.

There was a broadening of the definition of autism and that is why there are more cases. Whether that was good or healthy change is another topic.

I’m glad I had an abortion!

There’s a link between autism and having an older father. That’s what I heard.

Oooh y'all triggered the old single bitches...

What if, no matter how many hormones and implants they get, they still don’t really look like women? Caitlyn Jenner is a fine example.

Fuck her....oh gross, the idea of fuckin her...yuck

how she get her suga daddy? is he a cow?

Omg look at her face in a movie called Can you keep a secret.....her nose and whole face mus be pre surg, so gunky lookiing.

Who hit her in the face with a frying pan ?

R226 on the plus side Laverne's character didn't me make me cringe in that movie.

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