Who turned down Debra Winger's role in Terms of Endearment?
The Winger thread brought up this old question. On the DVD James L. Brooks says that an actress turned down the part because of the scene after her wedding when Winger says "here comes the bride."
I know Sissy Spacek turned it down but I kind of doubt she'd be uptight about that line considering she did Carrie and 3 Women etc.
Who could it be? Marie Osmond?
by Anonymous | reply 71 | November 10, 2021 8:46 PM |
Jodie Foster and Jamie Lee Curtis both turned down the role.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | August 16, 2021 7:46 AM |
That's odd r4. Both of them could have used a hit around then. Jodie may have not wanted to miss college. I think she was still in it around then.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | August 16, 2021 7:49 AM |
Kim Basinger turned down Patsy because the role was too small. She could have been Emma's touchstone.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | August 16, 2021 7:50 AM |
I could see Jodie refusing to say that line. Lesbians have no sense of humor.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | August 16, 2021 7:53 AM |
R4, Janet Leigh and Jamie Lee Curtis were considered for the roles of Aurora and Emma, but I doubt they would've turned down the offer, had one been made.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | August 16, 2021 7:55 AM |
Sissy Spacek turned down the role because of the line "you just made me wet." She said she couldn't say that.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | August 16, 2021 12:56 PM |
Spacek would have had the accent. Winger had the right flintiness, but both she and Jeff Daniels were miscast. Daniels was unbelievable as a lothario junior professor.
Spacek also would have given the character more of an interior life and made the film less of an annoying soap opera.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | August 16, 2021 1:20 PM |
Thank God Spacek didn't it. She always looked unwell. There's nothing robust about her.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | August 16, 2021 9:08 PM |
R11 she looks a lot more like MacLaine, though. She and Winger don’t look even remotely related. Not that it matters all that much.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | August 16, 2021 9:15 PM |
Would Melanie Griffith have been considered. That could have been interesting casting.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | August 16, 2021 10:23 PM |
I don't think Melanie was A-list enough back then. The next year with Body Double was like her return to prominence.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | August 17, 2021 1:29 AM |
Originally, it was Jennifer Jones and Sissy Spacek. I don't know if there was anybody in between.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | August 17, 2021 1:32 AM |
Yeah she had a couple of films that got her noticed earlier on and then she faded away a bit r15.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | August 17, 2021 1:32 AM |
What is the context of the line in the OP? I don't remember why it's a problem for an actress to say.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | August 17, 2021 1:33 AM |
Debra Winger was all wrong for the role, but she just wins me over so completely by the end. And her little son who cries with her in her hospital bed.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | August 17, 2021 1:33 AM |
Jennifer Jones had the rights for years but it never got close to being made since she was pretty much forgotten and Towering Inferno didn't relaunch her career like she had expected.
I think Jones' involvement was long before Spacek was offered it. That would be when James L. Brooks takes over.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | August 17, 2021 1:35 AM |
You know who would have been good as the mom? Jennifer Jones.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | August 17, 2021 1:37 AM |
Brooks has said he hired MacLaine because she was the only one who could bring comedy to it as well as dramatics.
I wonder why he did give it to Mary Tyler Moore his good friend. It would have been a stretch but I think she could have handled it based on her Tv movies made around that time like Lincoln and of course earlier with Beth.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | August 17, 2021 1:41 AM |
There is a little bit of something mean and frightening in Shirley McLaine that made that performance, that a lot of similar actresses just didn’t have.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | August 17, 2021 1:49 AM |
Best Soap Opera movie ever.
Both McLaine and Winger are superb as are the screenplay and direction. I can't see any other actors in those roles.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | August 17, 2021 1:57 AM |
Elizabeth Ashley could have been mean and frightening.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | August 17, 2021 2:15 AM |
I have the same question as r18
by Anonymous | reply 26 | August 17, 2021 3:09 AM |
Her husband slips under her wedding dress after throwing her on the bed. We are left to assume he is performing a sexual act on her. (you can't see anything.)
She then laughs and says "here comes the bride."
by Anonymous | reply 27 | August 17, 2021 7:25 AM |
Lucille Ball would have made a great Aurora Greenway. I can easily imagine her doing "the spider" when she first hears about her daughter's cancer!
by Anonymous | reply 28 | August 17, 2021 7:30 AM |
You know Lucy and Lucie Arnaz actually might have been pretty good in this.
(no Gary Morton jokes.)
by Anonymous | reply 29 | August 17, 2021 7:32 AM |
Debra Winger and Lori Petty would have been great as sisters in A League of Their Own. Too bad blinking humanity void Madonna ruined the whole thing.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | August 17, 2021 7:36 AM |
That's the movie over which I totally fell for Rose!
by Anonymous | reply 31 | August 17, 2021 7:47 AM |
“A league of their own” was just typical schmaltz. Sounds like Debra is still not a fan of it despite how well it did box office-wise. I really don’t blame her, I find it hard to watch that stuff these days, even as a kid I found it overly sentimental. I think she could have given geena a little more credit than “she was ok” though, that smacked a bit of sour grapes.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | August 17, 2021 7:48 AM |
Moira Kelly would have been Winger's sister, not Petty.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | August 17, 2021 8:16 AM |
The only reason Sissy Spacek turned down the role was that she had just had her first children and wanted to spend time with her new born and not on a studio set. She would have been perfect casting but I think Debra Winger was great in the role.
Mary Steenburgen was also considered for Emma after Spacek dropped out.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | November 8, 2021 1:30 PM |
Who are these people claiming MacLaine and Winter were miscast?? They were perfect in those rules, and I say that as somebody who's really not a fan of either.
That said, Sissy Spacek could have been a marvelous Emma. I really can't think of anyone else I'd like to see as Aurora... certainly not MTM.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | November 8, 2021 2:02 PM |
*Winger, obviously. Autocorrect changed it.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | November 8, 2021 2:02 PM |
I preferred the porn parody Terms of Endowment.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | November 8, 2021 3:32 PM |
I think Winger's Emma is one of the great performances on film, she's absolutely brilliant. She makes some of the most inventive choices throughout the film. Both she and MacLaine gave wonderfully poignant, yet humorous performances. The story may be melodrama, but they never get tripped up by that.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | November 8, 2021 4:49 PM |
Anyone else find it funny that by the end of THE EVENING STAR, you are actively rooting for Aurora's death?
by Anonymous | reply 41 | November 8, 2021 4:55 PM |
Why wasn't it offered to Meryl?
by Anonymous | reply 42 | November 8, 2021 7:10 PM |
R42 No. Meryl didn't start getting offered every role until Sophies Choice came out in December 1982.
Terms of Endearment would already have started filming by then. So essentially Meryl has probably been offered almost every aged suitable role that started filming from 1983 onwards.
by Anonymous | reply 43 | November 9, 2021 6:34 AM |
Maureen Stapleton would have been an interesting choice.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | November 9, 2021 7:24 AM |
[quote]Meryl has probably been offered almost every aged suitable role that started filming from 1983 onwards.
Except for Patsy Cline. No one wanted her for that.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | November 9, 2021 7:44 AM |
Streep was desperately courted for Sheena, Queen of the Jungle. It’s the reason Tanya Roberts has the blonde dye job. Meryl was stung by Sheena’s success and it’s direct impact as Tanya’s casting as a Bond girl in A View to a Kill. Streep had long held dreams of someday being cast as a Bond girl.
by Anonymous | reply 46 | November 9, 2021 8:11 AM |
R45 That role belong to me. (Though Lange is sensational in the role, Streep could never have pulled that off).
All joking aside, yes Sweet Dreams is a role she wasn't offered, neither was The Remains of the Day. Nor was she offered any of the roles in Crimes of the Heart (Keaton & Spacek were actually cast in that years before it was made).
by Anonymous | reply 47 | November 9, 2021 12:16 PM |
Who would they cast today? Some idiot plastic surgery whore like Megan Fox?
by Anonymous | reply 48 | November 9, 2021 12:32 PM |
Well I'd go with either Sissy Spacek & Emma Stone or Debra Winger & Natalie Portman.
Of course it would be Meryl Streep and whoever is the first go-to young actress in Hollywood.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | November 9, 2021 12:47 PM |
[quote]Maureen Stapleton would have been an interesting choice.
Jean Stapleton would have been even better!
by Anonymous | reply 53 | November 9, 2021 3:39 PM |
Debra Winger gives one of the great performances in Terms. I would have preferred she win the Oscar over Shirley but they were both worthy. It's a classic.
by Anonymous | reply 55 | November 9, 2021 3:50 PM |
Kim Basinger turned down the role of the friend, that’s all I know.
Her hair must grow incredibly fast, because she clipped it all off for the film she did instead, yet she managed to go back to long hair again quite quickly.
It’s puzzling.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 56 | November 9, 2021 6:54 PM |
While writing the screenplay, James L Brooks pictured Fannie Flagg as Emma, opposite Brett Somers as Aurora (with Richard Dawson as the horny next door neighbor/retired astronaut).
by Anonymous | reply 57 | November 9, 2021 7:44 PM |
I would have liked the opportunity to decline, except everyone knew I'd accept.
I could have won an Oscar!
by Anonymous | reply 59 | November 9, 2021 7:51 PM |
Sally Fiekd could have done it
by Anonymous | reply 60 | November 9, 2021 7:58 PM |
With a name like Fiekd? No.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | November 10, 2021 2:32 AM |
Well if we're recasting all the principal parts, who else could have played Jack's role as the retired astronaut?
by Anonymous | reply 62 | November 10, 2021 2:43 AM |
R62 Well, Burt Reynolds turned it down and he could have easily done it.
by Anonymous | reply 63 | November 10, 2021 3:03 AM |
Field in what role? She would have been awful in either of the female leads.
by Anonymous | reply 64 | November 10, 2021 3:48 AM |
She could've played Patsy.
by Anonymous | reply 65 | November 10, 2021 3:50 AM |
What r63 said.
I easily could see Reynolds as the neighbor retired astronaut, and would have preferred him over Nicholson.
Reynolds himself regretted turning down the role.
by Anonymous | reply 66 | November 10, 2021 11:55 AM |
Can we just take a minute to agree that Miss Basinger really was QUITE beautiful in that (and every) era? She’s been on my mind, with Baldwin in the news.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 67 | November 10, 2021 3:08 PM |
Do Jack and Debra have many scenes together?
Who was it who famously clashed with Burt?
by Anonymous | reply 68 | November 10, 2021 7:22 PM |
I think director director Paul Thomas Anderson on MAGNOLIA, for one (?)
by Anonymous | reply 69 | November 10, 2021 7:59 PM |
One - in the driveway when she returns from Nebraska. I can't recall another. The dialogue between the characters was minimal.
by Anonymous | reply 71 | November 10, 2021 8:46 PM |
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